For the Love of the Map

Episode 23: Athlete Spotlight - Meet Kim Wertenberger

• For the Love of the Map • Episode 23

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What if your fitness journey could begin with simple walks and evolve into a transformative experience with virtual reality? In this episode, we kick off a captivating new series by spotlighting Kim Wertenberger, affectionately known as "Apple Kim" and "Queen of Consistency and Hearts." 

Kim recounts her early days of walking through apple orchards during COVID-19, her transition to using an exercise bike and rowing machine, and the game-changing moment when her youngest son introduced her to VR fitness through an Oculus headset. As she nears her three-year anniversary with Supernatural, Kim’s story of unwavering dedication and fitness evolution will leave you truly inspired.


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Julia:

Welcome to episode 23. Marla and I are starting a new series and we are excited to highlight some of the community member athletes, and today we have Kim Wurtenberger with us. Hi, kim, we're so excited that you're here.

Kim:

I'm so excited to be here.

MJ:

Or as I like to call her, Apple Kim. Beautiful Hair Kim, Queen of Consistency and Hearts, Kim Aw Thank you Cheerleader Kim?

Julia:

Yes.

MJ:

For sure, cheerleader all the way.

Kim:

Thank you. Thank you, I'm honored to be here.

Julia:

Thank you so much. Yeah, we're so glad you're here.

MJ:

Yeah.

Julia:

So I don't forget because we don't want to forget to ask this question. Sometimes we get into it and it gets almost forgotten. But we have to know this what is your favorite food?

Kim:

Marla looks surprised You're like this question. I know Marla looks surprised, you're like this question.

MJ:

I know it's not surprise. It's more like I'm waiting and being anticipated. You know, like why is it Mexican food and say it's Mexican food?

Kim:

But also please don't say it's Mexican food and let it be something new no-transcript around the oven because they pop up Right and she'd say come look, come look, Because when you take them out of the oven they kind of fall. It's just, it's something that that is a family thing that we love. The other thing I thought of my husband. It's another family thing. His mother used to make crepes for their family. They're kind of sweet, sweet ones, and so our kids have always called them daddy pancakes, Cool whip, fresh strawberries. So, um, and I love that, our middle son messaged me one day he's wearing his dad's sweatshirt and he's making pop-ups.

Julia:

Actually, he was making crepes.

Kim:

He was making daddy's pancakes with dad's sweatshirt on and it was just.

Julia:

It's so hard. Yeah, yeah, but I love those. So do you put like syrup on the pop-ups?

Kim:

Oh, on a pop-up? No, so I only eat mine with just butter. Okay, but my husband who came, you know, I mean, he wasn't a part of it, it wasn't a part of his life growing up he puts jelly on his and I'm like no, no.

MJ:

So they're more of a sweet dish versus like a savory, or could they be either.

Kim:

No, they're well. I guess if you add the yeah, add the jelly to them, that does make them sweet.

Julia:

But they really are either way.

Kim:

Egg milk flour. I mean they're more savory. Yeah, they can go either way. Egg milk flour.

MJ:

I mean, they're more savory, yeah, so I think most cultures have this recipe, and in Scotland they're called Yorkshire puddings and we eat them with gravy.

MJ:

So they were definitely a savory, it's like with a roast dinner Roast beef vegetables, yorkshire puddings, roasted potatoes I mean, that is a classic comfort meal in our house Um I grew up eating that meal, um, and so I can kind of relate to your pull it uh pop-ups, because I was thinking, oh man, that is comfort food, so it's interesting to hear that your husband eats it with jelly. I like that.

Julia:

And no pun intended, if you're watching on YouTube, I will pop up a picture of the pop-ups on the screen Just in case you don't know what they were, because I have no clue, so I'm excited to see what these things are my kids love Dutch babies.

Julia:

We call them Dutch babies or puppy pancakes. I make them in a big, huge cast iron. My kids love them. They devour them like as soon as I pull them out of the oven. But they put like syrup and powdered sugar and fruit or whatever on them. So yeah, they're a sweet thing here, I think they're very similar.

Kim:

I don't know for sure, by looking at them because Chris's grandmother used to make Dutch babies and by looking at them, I believe that they're very similar, okay.

MJ:

Yeah, so that's what I would say. So when we do have a meetup one day supernatural meetup we've got to have like a potluck of everyone's favorite foods. Bring their favorite dishes so we can try them all.

Julia:

You know, right, that would be so fun. That would be really fun. I like that idea a lot.

MJ:

Yeah, so we'll save that. Put that on the back burner. So, I know we all are interested. Everyone's going to want to know how did you get started in Supernatural, with the quest, with this whole journey you've been on? Because you're almost coming up on your two and a half year anniversary, if I'm correct, november of 2021. Right, so you'll be three years November of 2021. So you're. So you're almost there, almost at three years.

Kim:

Yeah, how did it all start? Yeah, I um I want to say like my whole fitness um started about February of 2020, just as COVID was starting to hit more in Washington state, right.

Kim:

So it hit Washington state first. Um, I was at my highest weight and I knew I had to do something. So, um, covid shut us down. We came home, we started working from our kitchen and I started surcising walking. Um, we live in beautiful apple orchards and so I walked through the orchard and you know I loved that, but it gets hot where we live. So then I transitioned to an exercise bike and we bought a row machine. So I was doing an exercise bike and a row machine and I was in a very consistent working out but kind of bored with it.

Kim:

So one day my youngest son had bought an Oculus. He'd saved birthday money birthday Amazon, you know from grandma and grandpa and he said I want to do this and we're like it's your money, go for it. And so he bought an Oculus. I tried Beat Saber, loved it, bought it because it wasn't free at that time and I played it a little bit, but nothing too consistent. So I was a little bit bored with the riding, the exercise bike and the rowing and I put on his Oculus and I searched up fitness apps and Supernatural was the first one that popped up. They had the free seven or 14 day trials, and I did. I clicked on the free trial, I started. I started with the 14 day Cause I'm like you know what I've been consistent. I feel like I can remain consistent with a workout every day. And as soon as it popped onto the screen, as soon as I had that supernatural and I looked around, I was like yeah, yeah, I hope they never changed that.

MJ:

I hope they never change it. I look forward to it every time and I'm like okay, I'm going to like this, I'm going to like this, and it didn't take me any time at all.

Kim:

I don't think I made it all the way through my free trial before I paid the and I didn't care how much it cost. I was like I am doing this and I did. I never looked back.

Julia:

I love that Our stories are very similar. Our kids had it Now my question is did you give your kid back? I mean, what do you do now?

MJ:

Did he get?

Julia:

his own again. Did you have to buy another one, or what happened here? So I commandeered his, I swam all over his.

Kim:

And then for.

Julia:

Christmas we got another one.

Kim:

My husband had him wrap it like he was going to give it to me when I'm not going to give it back his sweaty one. So I kept his and then we gave him the new one yeah, that's so.

Julia:

He wrapped his own christmas present. That is so funny.

Kim:

That is so funny and he was so sweet, he was all about it, he was fine with it.

Julia:

Yeah, our stories are so similar though, and I love that, because you know mine was, and then marla told basically the same story. Your story is very similar with saber and then into finding the amazing supernatural, and the same like clicking on it, playing that first workout and just being awestruck by everything that it put you through when you started. So, yeah, um, I have one of my favorite stories that I want to tell about you, kim. Um, we used to work out a lot together and um in 2022, and I was about to cross my 1 million points and I was having a party. You were there.

Julia:

You realized that you were going to maybe not be able to stay for the actual crossing, but you went in, you took a shower. You're like I'm going to come back, let me go get a shower, I'm going to come back, I'm not going to be working out with you, but you came in and you sat on your mat after your shower and waited and was late for work so that you could be there for my crossing, and that was very special for me for you to do that, and that's why I call you cheerleader, kim, and I love how supportive you are of other community members, but that kind of puts my question to you, as how did you find your tribe and the process of finding the people that you've connected with on your supernatural journey so far?

Kim:

First thank you for that memory. I remember that yeah.

Julia:

I was like wait, wait.

Kim:

How much time, how long is it going to be, Can I? Get my shower in really quick. And then I told my boss I was going to be late, so anyhow, how mad was your boss? You know I mean well you know there are benefits to sleeping with him.

Kim:

So, don't you worry I know I have to put this in my boss is my husband of 30 years, so he was fine with it. I'm like I can't leave. I can't leave her. She's so close. I'm just gonna be a little bit late and he's absolutely fine with it. He's so supportive of me and my journey Finding my tribe.

Kim:

I started, you know, communicating with the people in the community, I guess you know, responding to their posts and I think that's what really started it all when I think one of my first team challenges, I joined the SMCE challenge and I realized what it was like to be on a team when Euclid posted I've told people before I was friends with Tommy and I've told people before I was friends with Tommy I wasn't about the original format of Uclan, the one-on-one. It didn't appeal to me at all when they posted that they were going to do a team challenge. I'm like I've done the SNCE. I loved the team aspect. I'm there and that's what started it all just being with different people on different teams and meeting more and more people, and I always seem to find at least at least one or two people that I just really click with, those people that live in my headset.

Julia:

Yes, yes, yes.

Kim:

But yeah, so that's really, I think, where it started.

Julia:

Yeah, so was it hard for you to find the community, though Was that something easy for you?

Kim:

So was it hard for you to find the community, though. Was that something easy for you? Yeah, no, I looked back. I started in the community right away, so I mean it's been you know so long. I can't remember whether, because the coaches would often say you know, post this in the on Facebook. So I don't know whether that was where I found it or how exactly I found it. Maybe just because I am a Facebook fanatic, I don't know.

MJ:

but yeah, yeah. I think for a lot of us, we either find the community, the Facebook community, right away, like we get in to the headset. It goes well, you're in Supernatural. And then you're like I did this amazing thing, I got to talk about it with people, so you automatically just go searching for it. Or there's people I've met who were in Supernatural like a year or so and then look for the community and that always blows my mind. I'm like how did you not search before today?

Julia:

Welcome, Come, come sit with us Hang out, let's talk all supernatural things, but then, on the flip side, sometimes there's people who kind of stalk the community and just kind of hang out there and read and look around, and then there's people who post right away like, hey, I found this place, this is who I am.

MJ:

This is my story.

Julia:

This is why I'm here. What kind of person were you, kim? Did you get in and share right away, or did it take you a little bit?

Kim:

Okay. So I scrolled, I scrolled and scroll. I tried it a second time, I scroll and it like kicked me out before I got all the way to the beginning. So, um, I and and that's nothing new on my personal Facebook page too I I have said it for a long time I'm an oversharer. So, yeah, it was a fun trip down memory lane. I can see all of these posts, wow.

Kim:

And all the achievements you know, and I don't ever look at it. I know some people are like, oh, I don't want to sound like I'm bragging, and I remember looking at it that way. I've had so many people reach out to me and talk about being an inspiration to them. You never know what somebody needs to hear and if what you're saying is exactly what they need and I've had people reach out to me and say that it was so I'm going to keep sharing.

Julia:

And I love your post because you celebrate big, I mean thank you. Because you celebrate big, I mean balloons.

Kim:

Yeah, that was my husband, that was a surprise, I did not know that. Yeah, he snuck them in when I was crossing my million. I was in the head and he kept asking me well, when are you going to hit that goal? What are you doing? And I'm like I don't know. It's going to be around this time. Because, he had to go get all those balloons blown up, and so I was in the headset and I heard him coming in, but I didn't know what he was doing.

Kim:

He had a friend helping him and I'm like I've just got a sports bra on. What are you doing?

Julia:

Get out of here.

MJ:

I'm a comedy.

Julia:

You're like what?

Kim:

I thought you were asking, but that's so sweet that you have that support from him, though, because not everybody has.

Julia:

You know the support of the people in your house. You already have to have an ocularium. You know a space to actually work out and that you can be like get out of my space. You know this whole room needs to be mine for this, or do I need to put in my earbuds or my headphones, you know. So to have that support is huge because not everyone has that. So I think, that's really awesome that he supports you in that way, especially for your big milestones that you ride yeah.

MJ:

Yeah, that's really good. Do you talk to your husband about your friends that live in the headset Just casually? Does he know who I know? You're on a team, on a smack team. Does he know who random people are just because you mentioned them? For me, chris knows who the majority of everyone is because I tell him stories or I'll be voice texting someone or I'll be playing a voice message from someone and he's like what's Banana doing today?

Kim:

Why is she?

MJ:

bothering. Is she annoying you today? I hope she is.

Kim:

So I wonder, since he's so supportive?

MJ:

I imagine he knows some of the goings on of your friends in the headset. He knows some of the goings on of your friends in the headset.

Kim:

You know Right, he does, yeah, he does, and you can't help it. You can't help it. I mean it's nice to have those friends because he doesn't supernatural. I've tried, he is not interested.

Julia:

Nope.

Kim:

Nope, nope. So I do. It's nice to be able to have the supernatural friends to talk supernatural stuff, but I can't help it. I mean the supernatural friends that I have. It doesn't all stay supernatural right. We talk about our lives, and so yeah, definitely.

Julia:

I'm like you know the one. Yeah, you form deep connections with people here. Absolutely, absolutely.

MJ:

It's really cool. There's something so therapeutic. While you're exercising and you're sweating and you're pushing your heart rate up and you're listening to this music and these coaches and you're doing these movements, there's something so therapeutic that happens and this way of opening your heart up to other people. I'm speaking for myself, but the relationships and friends that I have I noticed the same things with them too and then suddenly you go from chatting favorite workouts to today was a hard day, it was a test day. I didn't want to work out, I didn't want to do this. All of supernatural to wow. We have all these different interests but we come together and we just get so much strength from each other and I just supernatural. Community is so different from anywhere else that I've been a part of. How lucky are we to have this outlet for mental health, physical health, for developing friendships, inspiring one another, which reminds me of so many posts I have seen of yours in the community. I know you said you were scrolling backwards.

Julia:

I'm scrolling backwards. I know you said you were scrolling backwards Scrolling backwards. Yeah Well, I did the same looking at your old posts, yeah, and.

MJ:

I did make it back to your very first post.

MJ:

Oh you did, and I will say it wasn't because I died scrolling my finger or anything, it's because there is a filter option that you can filter by year, and so I filtered by year and went and I just started kind of noticing, from your first post onward and onward, how many of our friends currently, which probably were not your friends yet, were already engaging in your posts from the very start, already engaging in your posts from the very start, and I found that so heartwarming. And so many people who have probably been following your journey that I'm not even aware of you know. I'm just looking at the friends I know that we have in common, you know, and it really touched my heart because I thought you know each one of these people, kim, has affected their life in some way. That's right.

MJ:

And I'm so glad that you get to be our first community member on the show. Seriously, seriously so happy that it's you.

Kim:

Oh, thank you. I have said many times that the connections that I've made has been the icing on the cake. I mean it really really has, and the coaches have said this to what they get from us. And so then when I get that from somebody else, I'm like, oh my gosh, now I see what they're saying. When somebody says you've touched me, you've said something, you've done something, I've really resonated with this post, or something, it's just like, oh okay, I get it.

MJ:

I get it. Yeah Well, this is interesting because you mentioned the coaches and how they react to when people are reaching out to them. One of my absolute favorite things that you do is you have like a special day of the week where you post coaches quotes. And how does that? How do you decide what quote you're going to post today? Is it like something you heard that day? Do you prepare for it? What? How does it go?

Kim:

Yeah, no. So I have a ton of them saved. I've been saving them for forever. I don't know Like they'll say something and I'll pause.

MJ:

You know, get my phone out and type it into my phone during a workout, okay, during a workout, I stop it and I type it into my phone right away.

Kim:

Type the coach Um, and so then. So then I've got them all in my Canva program and I've got each coach and I've got all these things, and so then I just look at it.

Kim:

You know, every week I just pick something that maybe speaks to me or I know somebody is going through something. I try to pull something out and try to create something that and I love it. So I hope other people love it. Other people have told me they do, and so and who doesn't love a great coach quote? And there's so many of them. So many there are, and so that's. The only downfall of working out with friends is you can't necessarily listen to the coaches and hear all of their quotes.

Julia:

That is true, but I have a lot saved.

Julia:

Marla's loving to hear that you have the coaches on and you're listening to them. I'm also a coach listener. We don't like to turn them off Now in a party I will, but I love that you stop, that you're actually listening and that you stop and that you write it, because I have ones and sometimes I will repeat them, even in a party when we're working out together. I know, marla, you've heard me do it, but I don't retain. It's like it won't stick with me, and so stopping to actually write that stuff down when you're alone and you're not like everyone pause, you know, because everybody can't pause, I just love that you do that.

Julia:

I love that and I know that some of us, you know, sometimes we have a difficult time. You know when you have a bad day or you know things just aren't going well and you're not feeling your best. What keeps you, kim, coming back to work out in the headset every day?

Kim:

Yeah, I think for me, remaining consistent, I mean I love it, it's fun for me and I love the music, I love the movement, but I love consistency and I love waking up and starting my day. I mean this is how I start every day. If I sit down, sometimes on the weekends I might sit down on the couch before I get in the headset, and it's so much harder than when I hit the ground running. I get up, I get my workout clothes on, I get in the headset and, and you know, I do my sessions and then I go in. I have a desk job so I sit for eight hours. I have a desk job so I sit for eight hours, but it wakes me up, it gets me moving and I just I like those check marks On my days, I like to be consistent and that helps me.

MJ:

I think in getting it the consistency is so much a motivational factor for you. The check marks the routine.

Kim:

Doing it the same time every year? Yeah, I love the routine.

Julia:

So, before Supernatural, did you have this desire to have the consistency Because I know you said you needed. You know you were more unhealthy and you felt like you needed to go on a journey to be healthier. Right, have you always, you know, needed this consistency, or did Supernatural kind of bring this to you?

Kim:

It was COVID when I started working out every day. And really the catalyst behind that is. I got up and I went into my office, which was at our kitchen counter.

Julia:

And I'm like.

Kim:

I can't start work at 730 in the morning because I usually do get up fairly early. I mean, I get up a lot earlier than that now to do my supernatural, but I'm like I'm working from 7 30 in the morning until who knows when at night. That's when I started exercising and so, yeah, once I, once I built that routine and the funny thing is even like I would work out for an hour and a half on the exercise bike and the row machine when I started doing supernatural and that thing that would pop up and it would say you've worked out for an hour.

MJ:

You need to take a break.

Kim:

And I'm like all right, and I would stop. I would get just an hour's worth of time. And then I'm like what am I?

Julia:

doing. I don't need to stop.

Kim:

I'm just consistently working out for longer. Why am I doing this?

Julia:

Now you're like don't tell me what to do. You're not the boss of me.

Kim:

That's right.

Julia:

Thanks for letting me know, but I'm going to continue.

Kim:

I'm going to continue.

MJ:

That's great the consistency, the check marks, your self-professed don't like to pick favorites, right?

Kim:

You've already said that it's hard. Yeah, it's true.

MJ:

You have done something that for me and Julia, we think is absolutely insane not something we would ever do. There are others who have done this too, and that is mission clear the library, do every single session and workout available. You started with that right, and didn't you also do all the meditations too, with doc? You have legit like cleared the entire library and I was like what's up?

Kim:

All right, I'm like that might be a direction for me to go, Because I was like, well, what should I do today?

Kim:

And I loved it because I didn't have to decide anymore. Now one word of warning. I did all the lows and mediums. It took me about seven months to clear my low and medium library, which left me with all highs. I wouldn't recommend it. I would not recommend it. I know, I know it wasn't oh, wow so, but I just every day I'd just go in and I'd click, you know, low, medium, I would. Once they added the filters, that was amazing.

MJ:

You know when they added the uncompleted that was.

Kim:

I mean just everything that they've added. So I just click them and I would just take the next one and the next one, and the next one, and I was chasing those check marks. I know I've used that hashtag before I love chasing check marks. I love. I mean the check marks of the day, you know me completing the day, the check marks of completing the session, and I just, I just did it and I didn't.

Kim:

I did all the sessions. I went back and I did all the highs. I didn't initially think that I was going to do all the meditations and the moments and the stretching. But when I realized you know what, I've already done half of the stretch library. I might as well do the rest. When somebody all it took was just a little change in mindset. When somebody said you're stretching every morning, why not listen to the? Said you're stretching every morning, why not listen to the meditation while you're stretching? Because I would do. I would do um, a stretch before every session, not a, not a supernatural stretch, just one of my stretches. And so I started doing that. So I started to have my daily dates with doc and and I think it took me about three months I know Sorry, marla Watching- you date with.

Kim:

Doc, come on. I want to say it took me about three months. Every day we dated every day. Oh, wow For about three months and I completed that. And so, you know, once I started doing that, yeah, then I just I was almost there, I got to get rid of all the moments. So you know, once I started doing that, yeah then I just I was almost there, I got to get rid of all the moments.

Kim:

So so I continued with my stretches and moments and, but it was amazing to me, it was just a little change in mindset because I and I've heard Doc say it in his podcast even that you don't have to totally quiet your mind, because that's really hard to do, and that's what I always thought meditation was about. Same. And it doesn't work for me, so that worked for me.

MJ:

Yeah, it's definitely something I actually learned from Doc and Leanne. It was a workout that I did that really clicked for me. Leanne says it's based meditation We've talked about it here often.

MJ:

She says during this very long song, it's like a five plus minute song. She said we often have so many misconceptions about meditation. We think we have to quiet our minds, silence it. No, let those feelings come, let it come, examine them, let them be whatever they want to be. And that's what clicked and made me okay, I'm going to go do dog meditations. And then I realized, wow, in this process you do sort of find some quiet or you find something to focus on, intentionally, just this one thing, and you're giving yourself this space, this room, to allow whatever it is that needs to come up and out for you to express, and you get this and then doing it right before a workout. I've done it both ways Before a workout, I've done it after a workout. There's something so powerful about doing it first because you go into your workout session with this very intentional mindset and you work through.

MJ:

Whatever those feelings were that that meditation brought up. And I just find that so interesting. So when I was watching you go through your process of meditation, I remember talking to you often about it and you were like I don't know about this.

MJ:

I don't know, I can't sit here and be quiet as you went through the library and completed them all. You enjoyed it. You enjoyed having your daily dates with Doc, which I approve. I approve, Everyone should have a date with Doug every day. I think it's so fascinating. And to bring it back to, you saved all your highs right. I know some people only did all their highs first and only had lows left and it was painful for them. Our friend Julie, she's like really smart, of course she is.

MJ:

And she alternated them all Like she would do a low, a medium or higher or? Hold her lows back because she didn't really want to do lows. She would hold those back for parties and find new ways, like using a booty band or, you know, staying in a squat for the whole time. She would find new ways. Um, you have a club. You have the Supernatural Librarian Club. You started your own club, sort of like Julie and I started our.

MJ:

Madhouse 100 Club. Yes, yes, do you guys talk about the best way to go about this or give tips to the community on how, if they want to do Mission Clear Library, what's worked for you guys, or you know? Do you guys just like chat going?

Kim:

haha, we've done all the sessions we have tagging rights, oh well, I don't know how big your madhouse club is, because I've never um wanted to join it. No, I for a minute I thought maybe when I cleared my library I thought maybe I would try, and then I did, maybe one or two and I'm like no, I'm good, we don't want to join yours, you don't want to join. My club is pretty elite. I think we have maybe 13 members. I just wanted to know how many there were out there and I think that there's probably more where people knew.

Kim:

I just I waited until I completed everything. However, I don't make that a caveat. If they've completed the flow and boxing, I'll let you into my club. I'll let you into the supernatural librarian page. I just you know, just like with what makes you guys tick and doing the madhouse until you get a hundred percent, what makes us tick in wanting to complete the entire library. And I know you both of you I'm sure know Tracy, I don't know her, well, but she has what?

MJ:

Seven bazillion million points, or something the most points out of anyone in Supernatural.

Kim:

Yes, and the most patients.

MJ:

She's fascinating.

Kim:

And she said I inspired her to go back and do the meditation the moments, the stretching, it's like what that's awesome.

MJ:

Because she never had that goal, right yeah, so it's new, it's small and you know Well, we're going to plug it Listen if there's anyone out there who is on Mission Library or who has done it, join Kenneth's group If you guys even think about wanting to do this. Make a post and tag him and ask questions, and maybe all the other librarians will come and give you tips and tricks on how to get you through the mission Exactly, you know, because I find this fascinating.

MJ:

So to me, everyone in your club, in your elite club, in your group, they must be checkboxers, they must get so much dopamine from those checkmarks, checkboxers, they must get so much dopamine from those check marks. It really motivates them to go in and do every session. I want to talk to them. We should have like a super natural librarian whole little episode and just like invite everyone and ask them about why they decided to do this? Yeah, it would be great, it would be a fun episode.

Julia:

Another thing that's interesting to me that you said is that you kind of get decision fatigue, and I'm kind of like that too. So when I met Marla one of my favorite things she probably is like I'm so sorry, but she was doing a lot of competitions and I wasn't. I wasn't interested in them, and so I was like her competition buddy, I didn't do the competitions, but I basically did. So I might as well have been, but I did a lot and I, I loved it.

Julia:

Um and I really don't know if Marla knows how much I loved it, but I loved it because I didn't have to think. I just went in and Marla's like this is what we're doing today. You know, at first she was like I'm so sorry, but I'm doing these, and I'm like, well, I want to do what you're doing and I don't know what to do. So, so, so that you're the same way, it's, it's a wonder. Something inside of me, though, just doesn't want to still clear the library.

Kim:

You know fatigue, but I'm not that fatigued, it's a lot, it's a lot, and I have to tell you I bawled my eyes out when I did it too.

MJ:

I didn't expect that rush of emotion.

Kim:

And Chris, my husband, was sitting there on the couch when I hit that milestone me snapping pictures of me, and I'm like I'm doing the ugly cry.

MJ:

Dude, we can relate to this because Julia and I both did full on ugly, ugly cries when we got our first a hundred percent on a madhouse.

Kim:

Um.

MJ:

I took, like I literally saw the a hundred come up, cause I had to wait. I had to wait, I had to make sure, like, get to the whole, like I thought I nailed it, but I want, you know, I had to see the proof, show me the pudding, like let me see. And, um, I and I was fumbling, I got my phone. I held it up like this. I took my headset and I videoed right then Ugly tears. I remember being like I did it.

Julia:

I did it Like it was a huge deal, so we can totally relate.

MJ:

It's that sense of accomplishment, like something you're working so hard on, so hard. You know parts, I'm sure especially when you're looking at almost 3,000 sessions you've got 2,000 to go You're like this is impossible, am I going to be able to do this? But that self-belief, that knowing if you just keep going, and keep going, and keep going, you'll get it. Man, it's a priceless feeling.

Julia:

It is, I would say I wish we could bottle it up, but I don't, because people have to go through it people I scroll when I look for things for our podcast and I run into your video a lot and I always play it because it makes me cry too every single time, even now, like I can go watch it right now and it'll make me tear up, and because you can feel that sense of accomplishment that you had.

Julia:

And then, as you know, you were on, we were in a huge group party when I did my crossing and marla didn't yeah, marla cried for me, she was like who is this terrible noise in the headset, like making this awful voice of who are you?

MJ:

And everyone's congratulating and I'm like, hold on, y'all, be quiet. Is that my sweet tea? And it was the day the Madhouse 15, when we all did all the Madhouses back to back to back and it was returned, which was even more special to us because that's a huge deal. I mean just thinking about it. I've got goosebumps and I'm getting a little emotional. It's a big deal, it is.

Julia:

It's a really big deal and in a party with 10 people. We were not there for that. No, so for that to happen during well, you know, kim, having a lot of people in a party. You're listening, you're talking. You're just right. Know, Kim, having a lot of people in a party. You're listening you're talking I had.

Julia:

it was not even on my radar, I mean, I was trying for it, but anyway, I'll talk about me. I think we should talk about another, since we're talking about memories. Another memory that we have of you, kim but you might get mad at us because this might be a little bit of an embarrassing one for you but I'll let Marla tell it Okay.

MJ:

I'm trying to figure out which one, because I personally have a madhouse question to ask first. Since we're on the madhouse oh, you want to go ahead and ask the madhouse question. I want to ask the madhouses.

Julia:

Okay, well, let's do it. We're the madhouse. Look, you brought up madhouse and I can't my brain needs to fulfill the whole madhouse We'll come back to it. Yes, I know which one you're thinking about. Okay, okay, I know now too. Yeah, you do.

MJ:

People are like why are they doing this? You'll know.

Kim:

You'll know it's the buildup. We're going to build up to that one, because it's epic. That's right, yeah.

MJ:

So you joined us and did all four madhouses back to back to back at the end of last year. And that was great, that was great. You have done so many madhouses in parties, in competitions. You are always willing to join anyone who is nervous or scared to do a madhouse. You're like, I'm there. Do you willingly pick when you're like going and doing your workouts for the day? Are you like? I'm going to do a madhouse today? Is it like a workout you go to, got to know?

Kim:

So first of all, I don't redo many sessions. I really don't? I have like 24 pages, 27 pages of favorites, so I have lots of favorites, I don't really go back. I think I might have one or two of them favorited, but I think it's from a competition that I just didn't uncheck and if I'm scrolling through looking for a favorite to do, because I don't have any wads to do? No, I'm not going to click on it.

MJ:

Fair enough. Fair enough, Is it the music? The complexity? Is it a combination?

Kim:

I think it's a combination, because I've done it without the music and there's one of them I'm sure you could tell me which one is really drum heavy and I turned the music completely off and I was like, oh, turn the SFX off, turn the music off.

MJ:

And that was fun listening to the beat of it but, I'm I'm not a fan of the music and yeah, well, I remember very vividly um the day that return to the madhouse came out. We were in a big party and there was a big group of us who were like, okay, let's go and do this workout all together. And you were like I've already done my morning session. I've already done it. It's insane, but I'm going to join y'all. And we're like yes. So you were like the only one in the group who had already done it. It was all of our first plays. We're all hysterically laughing. That's what you do in a madhouse in your first play. It's just insanity.

MJ:

You're like whoa and you got to laugh. It helps the experience, it makes it a better experience to laugh through it. And we get to the second song and there's only two songs in Return to the Madhouse that have knee strikes in it and I remember you going just wait for the aggressive knees, wait for the aggressive knees, and it stuck with us so much.

MJ:

I was hysterical, because as soon as that first knee strike came, I was like it is an aggressive knee, and then we go to psychosocial and it's like even more aggressive knees and so now when we play it, it's always aggressive knee, aggressive knee.

Julia:

Yep, kim's aggressive knees. We do mention you every time.

MJ:

You're always there with us.

Julia:

You're there with us, if you like it or not. If you like it or not.

MJ:

You might not willingly play it, but you're playing it whether you know it or not, because we're thinking about you.

Kim:

Well, I'm glad I didn't ruin it for you. It's like zip it, Kim, Be quiet.

MJ:

No, no it was the perfect, perfect thing All of us needed to hear that.

Kim:

That's funny.

MJ:

Which leads me to another memory that we're all waiting to talk about.

Julia:

I don't know, marla, should we save it for last?

MJ:

No, I want to tell it right now.

Julia:

You want to talk about it now? Okay, okay, let's go, let's go. It was so good.

MJ:

So we all know that you are very active in the main community, but you're also very active in so many subgroups Ukeland, snce, you have your own club, the Librarian Ukeland. Though NCE, you have your own club, the librarian Euclid. Though it was towards the end of last year we were doing year two of Harry Potter and everyone in the community was so excited to learn out what house they were sorted into right.

MJ:

Everyone wanted to know and us admin and moderators. Kim is a moderator of of Euclid with us and she all of us were excited. We just wanted to start telling people what their houses were. But some member I shall not name, heather, she is all about some some shenanigans.

MJ:

She's like started this mission hashtag, fork something and we had to like spin in a circle with a fork to find out our houses, all this stuff. And it was like, well, yes, so much hype. We had so much hype leading up to this, this team tournament, and one of the things that we did was, if you can complete so many of this particular workout, your admin and moderator team will take a pie to the face. Yes, how does this tie in with Harry Potter? I don't know.

Kim:

It's shenanigans. It was to get people excited.

MJ:

It was just part of the way we do things and stay active and make things fun and interesting.

Julia:

We never thought it would actually happen, though.

MJ:

I did not. I was not ready to take a pie to the face personally, but we all did. But Kim's pie to the face y'all. Oh my gosh, the most epic thing ever. You were a professor of Hufflepuff. And what are the Hufflepuff covlers? Everyone do you know.

Kim:

Yellow and black.

MJ:

That's right, black, black Kim being, you know, into this, taking one for her team, getting all in team spirit, you know, being the amazing leader that you are, you decided to theme your pie out with yellow and black food coloring.

Kim:

I did.

MJ:

And the next thing. The first thing, the anticipation for us admin and moderators was a selfie with a pie and a black tongue. Kim just sticking her tongue out and it's completely black and she's like well guys, my pie is made and it tastes great and we're all over here taking a pie crust in whipped cream. She's making a homemade pie.

Kim:

It was colored whipped cream, so to be fair, it went above and beyond what any of us did.

MJ:

But you're a video. First of all, let me set the scene we're going to. We're obviously going to put the video here. We can't help it.

Julia:

Yeah, Um of all of us, we'll. We'll make sure we're all thoroughly embarrassed. It's okay, Not this Kim.

MJ:

But Kim's background, she's got that beautiful Washington. I mean the sky, the orchard, it's gorgeous.

Julia:

The lighting is perfection, yeah.

MJ:

You're standing there with your hair pulled back and this plastic bag over your clothes, like I'm sitting seeing y'all. It's important.

Julia:

It is important.

MJ:

And your husband. You can just tell he is so excited for this moment right. Yeah, he smashes that pie in your face and takes it away and your whole face is just covered in so much.

Julia:

Like it's dripping. I think you were shocked. Kim, you were I think that you were really shocked for like a little while you stood there and I'm like you just stood there, Kim.

MJ:

Okay, you just stood there, Kim okay, you just stood there with your mouth open and the slow blink, but when you go, it's chunky on my eyes. We die, we die.

Julia:

Yes.

MJ:

It was the best.

Julia:

See, because it went through our admin chat and moderator chat and we were all turning each other all the videos in, so that. I could make our pie video to show to the community to get them all hyped up. And we were just so stuck on that for like weeks your pie video.

MJ:

We made a gif out of it. We did. We made a gif and pass it around in our chats and leave it as comments on post, because I mean, it's just, it's classic, classic, I'll never forget.

Kim:

Oh, me, neither, me, neither and I. I haven't laughed that hard probably since you know. Um, when I looked that, and then I looked at my tongue and I thought I'm putting this on my face. I mean this is what it did to my tongue, my face, I mean this is what it did to my tongue. So I put a layer of Vaseline on my face first, because I was thinking can you imagine I'm going to have all these black and yellow splotches? But and even I tried I had to add more black and more black and more black to get it really black. So that was really tough. But yeah, yeah, and my husband had so much fun, like we were like, come on, he was busy doing something I don't know off saving the world or something and I said you know right?

Kim:

I told him. I said, well, caleb can do it if you can't get here, because we were losing light and everything. And he's like, oh, no, no, no no, I want to do it. And I. It was, it was perfect and it was fun and we laughed ourselves both of us, all you know you captured that golden hour light perfectly, though Vaseline on the face.

Julia:

thinking about that almost bothers me more than pie in my face, like Vaseline, oh get it.

Kim:

I almost forgot. I'm like oh, I gotta go, I gotta get that, you know, yeah, I almost forgot.

Julia:

But I mean, if you wouldn't have done that, you definitely would have been food colored for sure for days.

Kim:

Yes, because I still had some on my neck. You know I didn't get my neck.

MJ:

I just was worried about my face, and so I had a little splotchiness your husband didn't realize until that moment that he had been waiting 30 some years. We brought a dream come true for him. You're welcome, chris. You're welcome.

Julia:

Yeah, exactly, so fun it's so fun to think back up on all of the memories. We've gone through a lot together in New England and some of the competitions. But I've also seen some more recent videos here lately of your dad. But first I'll ask you because I just gave it away, I got excited we were talking about that pie have you recruited anyone from your real life to our cult, I mean to Supernatural? Who have you brought in from your real life to our cold, I mean to supernatural.

Kim:

Who have you brought in from your real life? I have, you know. I've gotten some supernatural gear thanks to my you know recommendations, my people joining my, I think first obviously my dad, but we'll backtrack just a little bit because for a little bit longer, my coworker I think she got tired of the the verbal vomit of me all the time, cause you know it's, it's such a huge part of our lives.

Kim:

And so I think she just got tired of listening to me. You know, wore her down. She loves it. She's coming up in August, there'll be two years for her. So she's got you know. Coming up in August There'll be two years for her. So she's got, you know, an amazing streak week. She continues to do it. One of my best friends from high school 13 week streak. She has not missed a single day since she started, so she's doing amazing. And then, of course, my dad and the funny thing is my dad kept saying you need to get your mom started.

MJ:

You need to get your mom started and it was mom, mom, mom, mom, mom.

Kim:

My mom's had a couple of little well one surgery, she has to have another one, so she hasn't been able to start it.

Kim:

Um well, a year ago my dad was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, um, and it is a treatable version. So he got the better of the two versions. But his cancer doctor said you need to start exercising. He has severe rheumatoid arthritis that has just ravaged his body. His hands are crooked. He can't really hold things.

Kim:

But he was trying doing like he says I'm doing these farmer carries, and my husband was trying to help him, doing like he says I'm doing these farmer carries, and my husband was trying to help him, you know, rig something up so that he could carry and hold the weights with his, with his mangled hands, um. And so finally, I was like you know what, why not have him try? Um, I took my, my controllers. My coworker had a different kind of. She had the velcro, I had the stretchy, and we took both sets over and he um, the stretchy ones work for him. His fingers are crooked so he can't. He can't, uh, get rid of the cool down or the warm-up. It's fine, he does all of that, but he's, I want to say, 31 streak weeks.

Kim:

So he's doing it at least three times a week. Go, dad, go. I actually was working out with somebody today that said how is your dad? People that I've never heard of are asking me how is your dad, you know, and I need to get there again. I need, and they might be coming down today.

Julia:

I might ask you bring your set bring your heads because I love.

Kim:

I love that people love him as much as I love him.

MJ:

I love that it resonates.

Kim:

I love that at 77, you know, with cancer, he tells his doctor, the doctor's like well, so what you been doing? And they're world small, you know, I've been doing supernatural, I worked out a moon he tells it. The doctor loves it.

Julia:

That's amazing. He's like a huge inspiration to so many and I know you said you know sometimes posting might seem like bragging, but this is the perfect example of your posts that you do for him. They're so inspirational for so many people.

MJ:

I mean they stick with me.

Julia:

every time I see one, I watch it all the way through. One of my favorite ones was when he accidentally did the super monster with all the dots. I love that video the dad dots but you're like what are you doing?

MJ:

It reminds us that, no matter how hard life is and whatever we're handed, making the time for us and our health, physical and mental, our wellbeing is always hard, but it's so worth it. It is so worth it, and to watch someone's progress reminds you how much you can do. It's inspiration for everyone. You never know, never know who just one video, one post could inspire to make such positive change or touch their heart. And so please share, please get some new video of dad, here's a special shout out for GoDadGo.

MJ:

We love you in the community and glad to hear that his supernatural journey is still going so well.

Julia:

So well, because it's not just a physical exercise, it's a mental exercise and it's also, like I said, inspirational and healing medicine for all of us. So I love it so much.

Kim:

He even told me within he said within the first week he felt that his balance was better.

MJ:

Within the first week that's amazing.

Kim:

I was like oh, because I thought for sure he would start seated. I had it all planned out, I had it all ready. What do we need to do? The modifiers, everything. He's like I don't want to stand and I was like all right, and I, I I watched him through the first several, um he advanced. You know, we turned on three portals, but we have the modifiers and, and you know, it doesn't matter what age you're able to to to use what supernatural has given you and and do it.

MJ:

That's incredible. So what modifiers did he go through? I mean, he just started straight. He didn't even go into seated, he just went straight standing right.

Kim:

But we turned off knee strikes, we turned off squats, and we did forward, facing at first and then he's like he's not done the complete circle yet the complete complete turnaround, but we did add the three lanes and so yeah, yeah that sounds like he needs to be like the next supernatural commercial. You know right what it sounds like, if I can do, it right, if I can do it, you can't.

Julia:

I mean, I'm sold, sold so I'm waiting for.

Kim:

I'm waiting for a get together Like I'm taking, please coaches come to Seattle come to Portland. We'll drive. I'll take GoDadGo with me.

Julia:

That's great. They definitely need to meet him. Yeah, they do.

MJ:

So, speaking of modifiers and features that you know there's so many, right, Like you mentioned, one arm front facing three portal you can put the big platform for people who are nervous and afraid of heights and get nauseated from the environments. So there's so many features and we've been around for so long. We've watched them integrate all of this in here. Do you have a feature that you would want to see in Supernatural, whether it's in-game or in the way we use the apps? What would you add if you could add a feature?

Kim:

Oh, I know, we talk about it often. We talk about it often, we talk about it often and I don't know what it would look like. But if I could just organize those a little bit more somehow, and I, I, I, I love supernaturally everything about it. Um, and they do amazing things. Some of those modifiers I know. One armed modifier is amazing to me because it doesn't appeal to the masses. I would think that they would work on things that appeal to the masses, and the fact that they've done that, it's amazing. What an amazing company.

MJ:

So, so, yes, we would like folders and I know they hear, they hear it often right from us.

Kim:

I don't walk in their shoes. I don't know what it takes to get those to us. I'm guessing maybe it's hard because they have done all these other things. They haven't done it yet, but we would love it.

MJ:

So, love it. It wouldn't surprise no one here that I've thought it all through. Oh, I thought the whole folder situation completely through and how it should be structured.

Julia:

It should definitely be more than one folder.

MJ:

Yes, oh, yeah you should be able to put a single workout in multiple folders at once. It can live in multiple places. There is no cut off of how many you can put in each folder. It can be. However, if you want your folder to have 150 workouts, go for it. That's your organizing heart. Do what you want.

MJ:

But for people who use the companion app, like we all do, because we plan our workouts or we go and want to see our points, you know we want to go and use the app for competitions picking out workouts for competitions, saving workouts for competitions, taking pictures all these things, Like the companion app, is a huge part of our lives, Having folders within folders within.

Julia:

The bookmark.

MJ:

This is just like music to my ears like being able to name the folders allow all of us organizational people, yes what our brains need to succeed when it comes to working out and encouraging others to work out, by sharing workouts, doing workouts for competitions, like there's a whole side of not just needing folders because it's convenient. I swear it's more than convenience. It's a much larger picture of why so many of us request folders. So team folders. We are not team complete the library.

Julia:

You are not team madhouse, but we are team folders yes, and we promised we did not pay, kim.

MJ:

We didn't say we didn't pay her to say that, so it's actually shocking.

Julia:

We're like, yes, we're not the only ones who want? Some folders.

MJ:

Right.

Julia:

Oh, that's awesome Listen. The morning we wake up and we have folders and maybe even the companion app kind of works, because sometimes I can't get my workouts to load on the app Same. It's frustrating, but it's okay.

MJ:

It's okay I don't get notifications y'all, so if you like my stuff. I have to actually go to my profile, I have to scroll through my workouts to see it, and I love it, I do it. I have to actually go to my profile. I have to scroll through my workouts to see it, and I love it. I do it, I willingly do it, but when?

MJ:

I hit the notifications. It errors out for me and it's been like that for months. It's like oh no, you said they give us so many things within the app in the headset, I think maybe they just aren't focusing on the phone app anymore, the companion app, but I really hope that in the future this year, next year that it can get a facelift and upgrade, Because it's a huge part of the way we use it and interact with the community on a daily basis.

Julia:

And maybe we all need to email.

MJ:

No apologies, it's important to say, but maybe if you hear this, please just go and email and say I use the companion app.

Julia:

I love the companion app and I need it to work better for me.

MJ:

So maybe before we get folders.

Julia:

we can just get a companion app update at least, but folders too, okay, Please, please please, supernatural please please, please, supernatural please, oh man. So of course, if you listen to us at all, you will know about the term joy ball. Um, now, kim, I hope you do not call them easter eggs.

Kim:

Please tell me you do not no, okay, good, hidden, okay, okay, yes, you get it.

Julia:

Joy balls can be Easter eggs, but Easter eggs are not joy balls.

MJ:

Exactly.

Kim:

No and I think I probably got the joy ball term from you, so I've used that word. Okay, absolutely, joy balls.

Julia:

Two questions. What is your favorite? Joy ball is the first question. I'll let you answer that first, and then we have a second question.

Kim:

Favorite Favorites. Favorites are hard for me.

Julia:

I know. I'm sorry, I know so um, I love the disco ball, with the, with the rainbow, and then the noise that it makes.

Kim:

Yeah, um, but after, after I saw this question, I was like in the headset and I'm like, oh, but I really I like the first time the fireworks came and I saw the fire, I'm like that one's cool.

MJ:

I really do like the bubbles.

Kim:

People thought you could pop the bubbles at first, I was one of those. I was going around telling people.

Julia:

I was going around telling people and then I realized you couldn't. I was like I am so sorry.

Kim:

But you had fun trying, didn't you? The geometric I love them. Those are probably my top four, I would say, but I can't pick a favorite yeah favorite I feel that, yeah, I feel that too, I, I love them all.

MJ:

Um yeah, they make me very happy. Hence why I named them joy balls, because they literally bring me so much joy to hit. Yeah, and with that said, I do have a random pop-up question here when it comes to this.

Julia:

I love this question. I love this question?

MJ:

Well, I have two. It's a two-part question. First, I got to know do you hit the joy balls however you want to hit the joy balls, or do you hit the joy balls however you want to hit the joy balls, or do you hit the joy balls the way the choreographers set you up to hit the joy balls? So let me explain. Say, you have two uphits right and one of the uphits is a joy ball. Would you just naturally hit them like this? Well, I guess that was a horrible example, because how else are you gonna hit them, marla?

Julia:

you'll have to just do the sudden death one. That's the only that's like. It's the most recent example yeah, so we're coming down, two are coming at you and the one is a down hit but but the other is a joy ball. So I'm thinking, and the reason why we bring this one up, because I just edited a big side-by-side video.

Julia:

Kim, you were in of dead and death and I realized that some people were hitting the very first down hit joy ball differently. Excuse me, marla being one of them. There were five people. Five people, I believe I counted.

Kim:

I'm starting a new club, but instead of no, you are not.

Julia:

Instead of hitting both down, which makes the most sense. Yes, some people were scissoring them. The Viking was hitting them. No, I don't like you have your answer, Marla. But yeah, marla was scissor hitting them, I did. At first I was like how did these people record the wrong workout? Sudden death is sudden death. What did you record? Because I go by the first hit when I'm editing and I'm like what's happening here? So people are willy, nilly and just doing whatever they want. Now I can see it more in a boxing, though, than I can in a flow.

MJ:

No, no, no, no, no. No. See, I don't see it in boxing, I only see it in flow, and I will use the sudden death as an example. The sudden death, hitting the joy ball differently than just both down, is a power play. It's 100% a power play. It is 100% of. This is how it makes me feel. I want my arm up in the air. Yes, justin, I'm calling you out. That joy ball is wrong.

Julia:

Sorry, sorry, you're going to be in so much trouble. I'm going to be in so much trouble.

MJ:

Look, sometimes I hit them down and it is. It's a drumming, I get it. Look, sir, I get it. Before you yell at me. I understand there is no one in the world who understands more. Trust me, but it's also a power play. It's like a way for me to boost my confidence. It's a way for me to be like I'm going to hit this and I'm going to end in like a superhero pose. What is up? So I just wondered if you hit joy balls however you want, or you follow what the choreographers are telling us today.

Julia:

Now that me and Marla will quit arguing and let you answer the question.

Kim:

I know I'm going to have to think about that. I think I probably do it, how the choreographers? But you know, listening to your podcast, there are things that I just do it.

MJ:

I'm not even thinking I just do it.

Kim:

Like this morning, I did the workout of the day today. What was it? Was it a high?

MJ:

It was boxing today, so you had three quick hits, Right right right.

Kim:

So I think it was the high boxing. I want to say it was the first song and I'm like, ooh, I liked the mapping on that one. I and I know I love that.

MJ:

I love that.

Julia:

Who are we turning you into, kim?

Kim:

It had knee strikes and the knee strikes were fun and it was at the right times.

MJ:

And I'm just like.

Kim:

It's not necessarily something that I think about, though. Right, but until somebody puts that in my mind, and I'm like Ooh, maybe I need though, you know, but until somebody puts that in my mind and I'm like Ooh, maybe I need to. You know, I was also by myself. I wasn't working out with anybody.

Kim:

I have a hard time talking to people, listening to music, listening to coaches and retaining anything. Okay, but um but yeah. So I feel like, probably for the most part, I do the joy balls like the choreographer wants me to. I won't say maybe every once in a while, Like the other day I was boxing and I tried to block a joy ball. Oh, that's so sad it dropped miserably to the rocks down below.

Julia:

I was one of the saddest ones. It was funny, it was funny.

Kim:

But I was like, oh okay, we don't block them, that's all right, Sorry Well now we've put that idea in your head, so you have to see if you start to really, and sometimes there'll just be a joy ball.

MJ:

That I mean if it doesn't accompany another target. How do you know, how you're supposed to hit it, because it's got no little tail to it. It doesn it, so you could hit it however you want is my feeling. So if it's just a single joy ball, how are you choosing to hit it? Do you have a way? Right-handed, right?

Kim:

Yeah.

Julia:

And sometimes I'll push myself to do left because I am right-handed, I'll challenge myself to do left, even if it comes on the right side you just like swipe it however you want.

MJ:

I do because what I'm doing is. I'm encouraging more movement within my body and more stretching and range of motion, and you know. I'm obsessed with range of motion hits yeah, and moving huge, so hitting it on the opposite side allows me to do that. I have to play the low end.

Kim:

You hear me yelling power, power. What did you say?

Julia:

It's me over here trying to do it with a different hand, doing something totally different. I'm going to have.

MJ:

Marla in my hand.

Julia:

Yes, yes, yes, you have to go do the low intensity, the one with colors in it. It has a million joy balls and then you can play with the way you hit the joy balls on that one? Yeah, because there are so many.

MJ:

We did a big group side by side and Kim was in that.

Julia:

Oh, Kim was in that one.

MJ:

We'll put this on the screen and Kim will write out that joy part section, because it's the first workout that had that many joy balls. Back to back it was. It was just joy ball, no target. Joy ball, no target, right. It made me so happy to hit.

Kim:

And.

MJ:

I did hit a lot of them differently.

Julia:

Maybe it was supernatural hearing us that we call them joy balls, because it was a joy workout. It was Maybe it was kind of like joy ball Dude it was.

MJ:

I'm telling you this is what we believe. We're coining it, we are.

Julia:

They're going to start saying it soon One of the coaches one day is going to be like hit the joy ball and we're just me and Marla are going to lose it.

MJ:

That would be a dream.

Kim:

I would squeal hope, no one is around me, I would do happy feet.

MJ:

I would lose my mind to hear one of the coaches call them a joy ball in a workout I would absolutely lose my mind. But since we're on joy balls, is there a joy ball? If you could create any joy ball, since you couldn't name your favorites, you had. You know it's hard, we love them. If you could create your own joy ball or suggest a joy ball for the future, what would it be? What would it have in it?

Kim:

It isn't that funny because I have a hard time picking favorites, but immediately, immediately my mind. My mind went to hearts. Yeah, I'm all about the hearts. So, yeah, fill it up with hearts.

Julia:

Why haven't we had that already, right? I mean with the Valentines and all the hearts that we draw in our choreography? Yes, give us that, because I want that too.

MJ:

Next, yes, supernatural. And listen, if y'all don't choreograph when you use this heart joy ball that we know supernatural is going to make because we're manifesting it right now, supernatural is going to make because we're manifesting it right now, if y'all don't make the choreography, a heart and the bottom one, one of them, is a joy ball, and those hearts just go up like confetti, yeah, and like you know, like the leaf one and how the leaves go in the circle. And make a heart okay.

Julia:

Visual genius. They wouldn't have it at the bottom though, marla. They'd be afraid we would hit our controllers together.

MJ:

No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't ruin my life.

Julia:

I know I didn't want to but then, when I thought about it, I'm like boing, you know there goes your controller. Marla's like it's worth it, it's fine, I swear we won't.

MJ:

She said just hit it with one. I swear, I swear we won't. I swear we won't. I swear, julie, I got to know Kim picked a heart. What would your joy be?

Julia:

Well, mine would be a heart.

MJ:

Oh, that's cute.

Julia:

Because when she said it, I thought the same. I'm like Valentine's Day, we're going to have a heart and it has not happened yet, so mine would definitely be a heart, and what supernatural stands for. Anyway, I feel like a heart would be perfect.

MJ:

Yes, Love unity. What would yours be, marla?

Julia:

Do you have one picked out?

MJ:

It would be lightning, I know you have Lightning.

MJ:

Yeah, it would be lightning and the sound. I mean the sound would go and you're like, well, how would you make lightning? Like little emoji, lightning bolts, no, no, like you would hit the ball. It would make a big crack noise like thunder, would. It would be like thunder and lightning and the lightning would, the sky would just, and I know that's way involved. It's like the future, future, future from now, that they could create something like that, because you kind of have to adjust the environment. But that is my dream. Joy ball is lightning.

Julia:

I've heard a little joke recently that if Marla was in charge, fill in the blank, fill in the blank would we all be okay or we would have everything be extreme it would be very extreme.

MJ:

We have pros only workouts weekly.

Julia:

The volcano location would legit spew volcano when you miss targets like well, it's like, give me the lightning joy ball, but I need there to be rain, real lightning, a full thunderstorm rolling in. It's not like it needs to be rain, real lightning, a full thunderstorm rolling in. It's not just the thunderstorm, it needs to be sunshine. Then the thunderstorm rolls in. We have a full thunderstorm through the song, but not this part of the song, only this part of the song. I already know what you would make happen here. Then there's a rainbow at the end.

MJ:

You can't ask me a question and expect a simple answer. I never.

Julia:

Like we can't ask.

MJ:

Kim for a favorite. You cannot ask me a question and expect I'm always going to be extreme and you know, I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing. I like to think it's a good thing.

Julia:

That's of course. It's a good thing. Everybody's different. But I think that's why I kind of feel bad asking, Kim, you know, for a workout suggestion. So at the end of every episode we ask for a workout suggestion and we ask whoever's here, if it's not me or Marla picking one out, that you get to pick one out. And now that we know that you have kind of the decision fatigue, I kind of feel bad. But do you have like a weekly workout suggestion for us, Kim, or do we need to go dig in a bag?

Kim:

You were kind enough to prompt me with this question. I appreciate that.

Kim:

I appreciate that. However, I did. One popped into my mind. I went back and I asked Mr Excel, who's my new friend? Oh, bill's awesome. So I asked Bill. I said, can you tell me what my most played sessions are? Because this one was the one that came to my mind. But I thought maybe I have another one that I'm not thinking of. And this was right up there at the top and I've played it, but for no other reason, because I love it. I actually played it again this morning, okay, and somebody said something in the community about it today and I was like, and she said the exact same thing that we were thinking so it's the, it's the. I wanted to say something else about it and now my mind's going blank, but it's the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

Kim:

TSO and coached by Leanne. It's like 23 minutes long. It's a medium medium that everybody in the community, I mean, I remember, post after post after post, saying there is no way. That was a medium and that was exactly the post that somebody posted today. But I played it again and it took me back. I love Leanne's coaching.

Kim:

I love going to the Concord Mall with her and getting to tickle me, elmo, yes, yes, I feel like it was in the second song. There is something my arms doing one thing here and something totally different here, and when I could do that. I was really only probably a month in when this session came out and the fact that my arms were doing two totally different things just blew my mind.

Julia:

I'm like how did I?

MJ:

do that.

Kim:

And I remember it. I think what I wanted to say. It's like it was a first of an artist series before they did artist series, because it was all Trans-Siberian Orchestra sessions. That's a good thought.

Julia:

I love that. And your first love of your first choreography move Right.

Kim:

So I still love that one and I did it again today. I still yeah, I stand by that.

Julia:

I love that you did it today, just to see if you had those same feelings, that's awesome.

Kim:

There's not many that I redo.

MJ:

And I've done it.

Kim:

I want to say like 25 times or something. So there's not many that I've done more than that and that was that reason, because I loved it. That's really cool.

Julia:

That's an awesome suggestion, yeah.

MJ:

I love that.

Julia:

We'll pop it up Yep and we'll make sure that if you follow us on our For the Love of the Map, on the companion in the companion app, supernatural app, we will have that workout in there at the top for you to bookmark. If you don't know how to find it, most people do. I'm thinking maybe that was one of my first, but maybe it wasn't. I don't know, it's a good one. Everyone should do it at least once.

Julia:

So yes for sure yeah exactly, that's tomorrow, so everybody for us it's tomorrow, but for you guys it's already a couple of days into July, but yeah, Christmas in July.

MJ:

Right, and when we post that, we'll also post that workout in our group on Facebook. If any of you listeners are not in our group, come on over there, because I'm going to post Kim's workout suggestions so you could see it. Maybe come in there and chat with her, ask her any episode related questions you might have, or just come in there If you have any takeaways from her episode Kim loves to hear from anyone and everyone in the community. As you can see, she loves building relationships.

MJ:

So come, hang out with us, come chat and after you do this workout, don't forget to rate it. Don't forget to rate the workout.

Julia:

So important. We don't know why we did this, Kim, but you just have to. Yeah, it just happened one day.

MJ:

Kim wants to hear from you. We want to hear from you. Super natural wants to hear from you guys, dude.

Kim:

That's right.

MJ:

If you like a workout, pick why you liked it. If you love to work out, pick why Hit other. It will prompt you for an email. You can send a novel of a response. I like this, this, that and the other. You can make bullet points. The sweet people in support will say thank you so much. We'll let the team know and you know the team finds out about our emails. They see our ratings. They see.

Julia:

So please, y'all rate your workout so so important so important, yeah, and I love when we get to sit here and I'm smiling so much that my cheeks hurt my cheeks that has happened today. Oh, kim, we are so thankful that you were here today and then we got to chat with you and laugh with you and reminisce with you and have you here with us. We really appreciate you coming on.

Kim:

I appreciate both of you. So much fun, so much fun.

Julia:

And we appreciate everyone that has come and listened to this episode.

MJ:

And don't forget the real joy in Supernatural is on the journey you go on Bye.